Valid reasons for appeals and getting your PCN cancelled in Westminster.
» YOU WERE NOT AWARE OF THE MOTORCYCLE PARKING CHARGE DUE TO LACK OF PUBLICITY.
» THIS IS YOUR FIRST PCN FOR A CODE 11. (Westminster Council have a policy of cancelling the first PCN issued if it is a code 11 “Non payment of the parking tax”)
» NO INFORMATION SIGN AT THE MOTORCYCLE BAY, IF THERE IS NO SIGN INDICATING YOU MUST PAY THEN THE BAY IS UNENFORCEABLE THUS A PCN ISSUED IS INVALID. READ THIS TOPIC ON YOUR FORUM FOR FULL INFORMATION
» UNREADABLE OR VANDALISED SIGNS. READ THIS TOPIC FOR FULL DETAILS AND ADVICE.
» NO PAINTED LINES/BAY MARKINGS.
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22 comments
J Twining
15/11/2010 at 12:05 (UTC 1)
I just got a ticket for pushing my bike up a one way street – something I have done for years! Is this indeed not allowed or are they trying it on!
asd
05/03/2012 at 00:03 (UTC 1)
For anyone reading this, you are indeed allowed to push your bike anywhere a pedestrian can go. So said council in this instance are taking the piss big time.
Danny
07/12/2010 at 12:26 (UTC 1)
I received a PCN after paying the tax. The fine was timed at 9 am whilst I paid at 12. As the payment is a flat fee of 1 pound per scooter per day, Westminster had taken my money and there is no time limit set between parking and paying. As payment for parking can be made by mobile phone it is assumed that the phone is always with you (which is not always the case)…. anyway I challenged the fine.
First objection was refused but the second one was granted on the fact that I was the first one who brought out these arguments!
Keep challenging those fines.
Cheers,
Danny
diego
10/01/2011 at 16:43 (UTC 1)
i had same penalty from rbck in a permit holders bay, on the street of course, where not signs board,
Looks that i’m not the lonely that did not notice the advice printed on the floor, as normally the first thing that you look x isa sign board…
Should i pay?
diego
j Cooper
02/02/2011 at 15:27 (UTC 1)
Hi
I have received a PCN in Birmingham, I parked put a ticket on the motorbike screen went to my interview on my return there was a PCN. I contacted them they said write in with my ticket which I couldnt do as it had been removed form my bike.
They are still demanding payment, but I have not parked incorrectly, I have copied my emails to the head of the council and to a cllr but cannot get any response now. ANY IDEAS?
vincent
21/08/2011 at 10:11 (UTC 1)
I received as well a ticket in a motorcycle permit bay in ken and chelsea borough but was not aware of such bays, The bay is marked in paint on the road but there is no sign board on the bay. I appeal against on the ground that I was not aware of such bays and was my first ticket but they didn’t cancel the ticket. Any advice?
Teppa
23/09/2011 at 18:47 (UTC 1)
Hi Guys! Ok today i’ve parked in Westminster my scooter, and as i was in a rush i didnt ahve my mobile with me and nor access to an internet as iw as going to an interview! Now what should i do? Shall I appeal to the ticket saying that i didnt have a phone and i couldnt call in? and tell them that they should have parking meter too in case this things happens? My though is that a person is not obliged to have a landline a mobile or internet, and so they should put other means of payment for this service… But if i think with a devil’s advocate mind, they could say that is my responsibility… to find a phone and the way to pay! What do you think guys… and then the phone lost/forgot excuse must have been used 1000′s times no?
Ann Conway
24/10/2011 at 08:01 (UTC 1)
My son went away to visit his friend and came back after a few days to a parking ticket on his bike.It is in a residential area and mentions permits.He however lives there,but he has aspergers and his logic is that he is a resident and there is no place to put a permit on his bike and he does not really understand why he has a ticket.Is there any way we can appeal,and what would be best to say.He has been there since April and never been given a ticket before.Advice please.
vincent
05/12/2011 at 15:58 (UTC 1)
An update on my previous post of August 21 2011, just to let anyone know. I appealed against a parking ticket from RBKC for MOTORCYCLES PERMIT BAYS to the PATAS and I got the PCN cancelled. Here is the letter I received from PATAS:
Adjudicator reason:
The carriageway legend “M/C PERMIT ONLY” is not a permitted variant of Diagram 1028.4 Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2002 and there is no evidence that this form of words has been authorised by the Secretary of State. I do not consider that the variation can be said to be substantially compliant with what the Regulations require particularly in a case where the motorist clearly failed to understand what was meant. As the bay was incorrectly and insufficiently clearly signed the vehicle was not in contravention and the Appeal is allowed.
If anyone get a PCN for those motorcycles permit bays DO NOT PAY THE PCN but appeal against it all the way to the “Parking And Traffic Appeal Service”
westminster parking permit
12/01/2012 at 19:44 (UTC 1)
I do not know why some people do not care about parking?
Jim
25/01/2012 at 16:51 (UTC 1)
If anyone would like help in fighting a ticket at PATAS I am very experienced having one 15 odd so far this year because I own and operate a delivery van in London and I am inundated with PCN’s so much so that I am considering relocating my buisness out of the capital.
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